Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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But he Rented the villa till again February 26 ! WHY? Oh right...Cause he could ,with the "generous donation"

Here‘a Jabba the Hutt’s version of events:

When the 6.4 struck I was in my “bunker.” Everything began shaking violently so I ran outside in my socks without pausing to put on my shoes. From the garden I could see my house jolting violently as the ground moved beneath me – a very distressing experience especially when you know your wife and two children are inside!
I ran to the steps to pick up Jessica as she emerged with her grandfather. At about the same time Dijana came down the stairs holding Julia as the tremors began to subside. We all stood outside stunned for a while before deciding to move over the road to an asphalt communal space – a safe distance from the buildings in case of aftershocks.
We spent the next hour or so camped out in the car trying to assess the situation. A neighbor kindly made a makeshift repair to our chimney, part of which was left hanging precariously. A nearby house was less fortunate as a huge chunk of exterior wall collapsed completely.
Gradually news came through that neighboring Petrinja had been decimated and Sisak severely damaged. We live equidistant to both. It’s stressful to make decisions with the adrenaline still pumping but I asked Dijana to pick a spot anywhere in Croatia where she thought we might be safer. She chose Istria, so I booked us an AirBnB and we drove the 180 km through heavy rain. (Incidentally they felt the quake here too but obviously not as violently.)

Bit of an odd passage, especially the part where he’s standing safely outside, yet relates how it was a “very distressing experience” to witness the house violently shaking with his wife and children in it. Shouldn’t he have run inside to grab then instead of waiting for the elderly in-law to bring the daughter out? But instead it’s a “distressing experience” for him watching the house shake.

So Dijana chose Istria as a safe place to flee to which also happened to be the site of their many holidays to the Croatian coast and is a tourist area. Whew, as long as they’re safe! I just want to make it known that if my chimney is ever damaged in an earthquake, I would feel a lot safer in the south of France.

He also enlisted Tony Ortega, a Scientology critic and journalist to help fund their escape from a damaged chimney:

FYI: Tony Ortega has 39.4K Twitter followers. By comparison, Lloyd has 12.8K followers, so he was finding from two sources: former JWs and Scientologists. He did quite well and paid for way more than the rented villa. He soon after started looking at homes in Istria, so do the math as to what would lead them to do that.

When he stated that he did not use Patreons funds in Thailand, it’s entirely possible. He might have just been misusing earthquake relief funds instead.

No mention of any neighbours he had helped with the excess money. In fact it was the neighbour who helped stabilize the chimney! Like everything else related to this grift, Lloyd simply pocketed what had to be in the tens of thousands worth of excess donations.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The survey was insane. So many loaded questions like “Do you believe in the blood doctrine? If so, are you in agreement that young children who cannot make decisions for themselves should put their lives on the line?”

Sure. Kids dying, I totally fucking support that. $400 for these questions? This is why people go to college and learn how to take real surveys.

He’d be laser focused on who was responding. In the early days he’d excitedly report results back here. “I have received 8 responses from the anointed and 6 are negative toward the WT! If the anointed are turning against WT, this means their days are numbered!”

First, anointed people, particularly those outside Bethel and especially those without any privileges like women are known to be more critical of the organisation than the rank and file JW. I knew of an anointed sister who practically demanded to be allowed to sit in on elders meetings.

Secondly, I was one of the “anointed” to reply. Myself and a few friends here loved to fuck his survey up just to see if he’d come back with a huge find like he was Indiana Jones closing in on the lost ark. Think I said I was an anointed Circuit Overseer or something.

If there were a box for gay Governing Body member I would have clicked that. That’s how stupid the survey was.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

She was certainly aware of the flow of cash that has been generating over the years. And the BMW. And the paid holidays. And the 5 star hotel.

A lot of the explanations of her behaviour and why she seems to just shrug off the abuse from Lloyd all these years seem to be centred round her culture. I get it, Croatian culture is patriarchal in nature and the man’s voice carries more weight than the woman’s. Fucked up and you’d think someone who is so tuned into environmental issues and animal rights as she is would stop to think about her rights as a wife, a woman, and a human being, not to mention the protective instinct as a daughter of elderly parents for protect THEM from HIM. That’s a huge disconnect there, especially seeing him regularly threaten them with withholding the grandchildren. Who’s acting like the JW here? And who is acting like the JW WIFE?

My question for her is in what culture is it NOT considered extremely rude and discourteous to accept $15K from strangers halfway round the world for a free & all expense paid holiday? That was just the amount that was not covered by donations.

If a family member pulls out $15K and says they are sending me on holiday, I tell them NO. Thanks but keep your money. Now that’s a family member. If a stranger or “online friend” offers the same, I really protest.

Really, in what culture is this OK? Gypsy? Any Gypsies here? Am I being harsh?

Someone tries to give me a BMW, I insist on paying them, at least something. Am I off-base here?

Wasn't she assisting her husband whilst still in the org doing business with the brothers and sisters, a business that generated some issues?

That’s a good point, especially 10 years ago when his Croatian couldn’t have consisted much more than hello, goodbye and I would like two Big Macs, an extra large fries and large Coke. So in the KH when they were still both attending or at least she was, she HAD to have been the one communicating with the other JWs they were farming the work out to. She also had to have known what they were charging and how much they were profiting on the work of others. And how did the elders catch onto this if someone had not complained to them about their business practices?

I remember when Lloyd was saying on the livestream that his wife did not want to be seen as a victim. Probably because she wasn’t a victim, but rather an active participant.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The end credits on his new youtube video , the interview with scientology Mike Rinder is new. It used to be only his name and tibor

Wow look who just got promoted, and just in time for the one year anniversary of her husband telling the world that he has no mastery of his penis in all affairs except one - his wife! That’s some action he has no problem staying away from. Dijana Evans - great wife, mother, and assistant producer, horrible fuck.

I would have suggested she start her own OnlyFans page had she wanted to debase herself for money. But working for her comprised husband as he continues his work in CSA will do.

Thanks for illustrating who the “we” was in his begging tweets, Toblerone5.

#Complicit

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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Simon was practically snatching the food off of Lloyd's table!

He threw a tonne of shade at him, all for not replying right away to his desperate emails asking whether an exception be made for him to be allowed to crowdfund on this site.

I appreciate Daniel's support, and I have already received a very kind donation of $25. I was hoping the funding issue would be resolved very quickly and we could press on with getting the survey some publicity etc, but it seems my ambitions have been choked by red tape at the first hurdle...

If you don't think that the survey is any good, or that it won't add value to JWN for a business perspective then that's fine - I'll go elsewhere and find another way of doing it. However given the way I'm being treated on this by site management I don't feel too inclined to post the results here if it is a success, I would rather go somewhere where the data is valued.

Always threatening to take his talents elsewhere if he doesn't get his way. Good Lord.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

He’s clearly got a skill for getting people to send him money for very little effort. He’s got begging down to a fine art.

And it was demonstrated for all to see in his early days here. A bit of context, he had started three threads for that survey idea that he said costed him $400. He made no qualms about assuming the posters here would/should reimburse him and even provided PayPal info on the thread. Those threads were removed to "Admin" and left for Simon to decide since it broke a rule about asking for money. So, Lloyd had a supporter open a new thread asking the same thing, and he joins in complaining that he is not allowed to fund here. Link for the thread:

Global JW Survey page 958 (jehovahs-witness.com)

The way I see it, the survey adds value to JWN and is a valuable resource to its members, but I am forced to pay for it out of my own pocket and am not allowed to ask for any help in financing it.

He immediately labels his survey as some sort of public service to the forum and not only complains about paying for it but also references his removed threads and thinks he should be able to crowdfund through this site.

This one really demonstrates how entitled to donations he feels:

However, I genuinely see it this way:
I've had to pay out of my own pocket to get the survey up and running. Both the forum and forum members benefit from the survey and from seeing the results, and yet apparently I am not allowed to ask for help in funding it?
It may sound picky, but I don't see why I should continue to post the results, thereby allowing the forum to get the benefit of the results for free, when I am not allowed to receive any help with the funding? And over such a relatively small amount of $400... it's a shame.

Pro-tip - if you say "this may sound picky, but...", it means it is. He really feels he is doing a public service and actually wants to withhold the results until he gets what he wants and is reimbursed $400. And he's even spiteful towards the forum, opining that we shouldn't "benefit" from the survey results if we haven't contributed. Further proof he doesn't do anything for free and he needs to be compensated in full. It explains how he's able to continue this grift as he manipulates people into thinking this "for-profit" enterprise of his is providing a public service.

This is why he says things last week about how he'd leave. He creates the illusion that this is all done out of the goodness of his heart and the donations barely compensate him for the basic expenses. When people see that the exJW community is about to lose such a great philanthropist, you have what happened last week with the Patron spike.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Maybe saying, "As a father, my work can be a major distraction..." would bring on even more questions about whether or not he is divorced. Or, some newbie might think of being a "father" as being a priest

That's what adjectives are for. For example, "As a devoted single father of two young girls, my work can be a major distraction". After all, "single" is something he described himself as when he got caught going to the dating event. He can take the husband part out without destroying the sense he was trying to convey. But it seemed he'd rather dispense with the entire sentence altogether.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Has anyone got a screen grab of the old wording?

I don't, but I compared his current wording against an archive from 2021. The passage you are referring to is unchanged. But there are a couple changes I noticed - removal of any mention of the TTATT documentary. Here's the 2021 version:

In the early days, I did this through blog articles on JWsurvey.org, which I founded in 2011. Then, in 2013, I started vlogging on YouTube. I have also published an 800-page book, "The Reluctant Apostate," and a follow-up titled "How to Escape From Jehovah's Witnesses." In addition, I am currently involved in producing a documentary feature film about Jehovah's Witnesses titled "The Truth About the Truth."

The last sentence has been deleted.

Also, he removes reference to him being a husband and father. Here's the 2021 version:

Making all of these resources available has been, and continues to be, an enormous drain on my time and energy. As a husband and father, my work can be a major distraction, but having personally met people who claim to have benefited (sometimes dramatically) from my books and videos, I consider the personal sacrifice to be worthwhile

Here's what it currently says:

Making these resources available has been, and continues to be, an enormous drain on my time and energy, but having personally met people who claim to have benefited (sometimes dramatically) from my books and videos, I consider the personal sacrifice to be worthwhile.

I understand about removing the "husband" part, but shouldn't the "father" part still be relevant? He also removed reference to it being a "distraction". I reckon it shows subconsciously the true extent of how disconnected he really is from his children's lives now that he lives over an hour away. All the pics he posts of his children are just propaganda gleaned from the few hours he does see them.

You have to wonder why he consciously removed that entire passage.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Another livestream mocking him would be great.

I just want this whole "dating a sex worker in Thailand" bullshit to be exposed. He's lying and it's all there. He's also basing his claim of defamation on what he deems as your lies. Have someone do pre-show prep with clips of the more outrageous and funny portions of the livestream ready. He pushed aside the question of sex workers in Thailand and immediately went to his "2-3 months over 3-4 years", providing no clarity other than he did see them. Then pivot to the 3 February FB post 3b and 3c where he specifically says he met sex workers (plural) in Thailand, all of them were in their 20s, and the girl on pic is NOT a SW - making a total of at least three "women" he has seen in Thailand and has NOT paid for sex. It's simply ridiculous he had contact with 3 SWs in Thailand, one of whom he claimed to date romantically, and paid not one of them for sex. After that, the Andrew Gold interview where he denies he paid SWs in Thailand, only that he dated one and his only admission to SWs was in Croatia and "other countries". There are also several tweets like the one last week where he admitted to paying for dinner with the SW he dated, nothing else.

If you need screenshots and video links, let me know. I can help.

Also helpful if you want to fund for The Exodus Road, have a watermark on the livestream that specially states all superchats will be donated to them. You might also want to tip them off that you are funding for them and explain the situation. They might retweet you for more exposure.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Did the state (Arizona or New Mexico i think) come down on them so they changed the form, or did somebody see what was wrong and fix it?

It was Arizona. A forum poster named fizzywiglet called the relevant Arizona authorities and got some info regarding whether using a pseudonym on incorporation documents was illegal - it was. She posted her results here. As for what prompted AAWA to remove “John Cedars” from these documents, it is best known to them (or “him” I should say). JLE was already out as president after starting fights and then playing the victim. He wasn’t long for that work anyway as donations and support had dried up and it was clear he wasn’t getting anything from AAWA other than plane tickets to Tucson.

I’d reckon they saw what was posted on here and when JLE resigned it was a matter of housekeeping to get him off and end that particular controversy.